Tesla Model S test drive event

Hotel drivewayTesla Motors put on a three-day test drive event, at the Hilton hotel in Southlake, Texas, Friday through Sunday (today). The hotel is a short distance from Classic Chevrolet, so I though, “What the heck,” and signed up for Sunday at 1:00PM. I requested a P85D, so I could experience “Insane Mode.” Remember, the reason I fell in love with EVs was the torque and acceleration of electric drive. Shortly after I signed up, Bonnie, my wife, texted me asking, “Are you doing this?” She had signed up for the test drive as well. On the same day. At the same time. I guess 20 years of marriage gives a couple telepathy…or Radar Love

Buzz & bannerI was surprised, that there weren’t hordes of people queued up outside the hotel, when we arrived. They seemed to have planned the event very well, with the appointment times spaced enough that clients could start the drive very soon after arriving. In fact, this is what I’ve been wanting to set up for National Drive Electric Week: a fleet of Chevy Volts and skilled salespeople queued up, on a Sunday, to give test drives and discuss the advantages of driving a plug-in vehicle.

We were paired up with a part-time Tesla representative/college student named Ian and we walked out to the hotel’s roundabout, where we selected a P85D to drive.

Bonnie let me have the first drive, which included both freeway and city street driving areas. Getting on the frontage road, the Model S accelerated very quickly but I wasn’t pushing down much on the accelerator (formerly known as a “gas pedal” to the uninitiated…). Ian had me drive down to a u-turn and then onto the freeway. This time, I was ready to really accelerate, in order to access the freeway.

Holy cow.

Buzz & IanLike I said, I am used to driving plug-in vehicles of various brands. This was a whole new experience for me. Within a very few seconds, we had accelerated to XX miles per hour and it felt like the Model S was eager to do even more, but I’ve been on scary test drives (as the rep) and didn’t want to stress Ian out…too much. The ride was very smooth and quiet as with other EVs. The major difference was the acceleration, the HUGE touchscreen in the center of the dash and two gigantic sunroofs. Having almost wrecked my first Volt, on my first day of leasing it, by playing with the Volt’s touchscreen, I abstained as much as I could from messing with it. After stopping later, we were shown web browsing, the rear view camera, sunroof operation, navigation (including Supercharger locations) and audio controls on the touchscreen.Teslas

The Model S exhibited one of my pet peeves regarding plug-in vehicles: The shifter. I still don’t know why manufacturers feel an advanced vehicle has to have some new way of changing gear. We’ve all had years and years of shift levers. Why reinvent the wheel?!? That being said, once we were shown how to use the shifter, it was not an issue (other than my pet peeve).

Driving the Model S, the brakes were very responsive. Bonnie mentioned the brakes felt like when she gives driving lessons to our 16-year old daughter, Zoe. It took a few stops for either of us to brake smoothly, but we caught on quickly. We returned to the hotel, where Bonnie & I switched places and she took the same route. When we returned to the hotel at the end of Bon’s drive, she asked, “How do I turn it off?” Ian said you don’t have to. When you open the door and get out, it shuts down automatically!

Now, realize: Bonnie is not a gear head, when it comes to cars. She loves her Volt and is ready to get her next one.P85DWe started asking about option levels and pricing, mentioning that we would never be able to afford a Model S and were merely curious. Ian discussed leasing as well as demo vehicles. I was thunderstruck. Although I now work in auto sales, it never occurred to me that Tesla would mark down these test drive vehicles and then sell them (or lease them) at a discount. How much of a discount? That remains to be seen, but he definitely roused my curiosity. He mentioned what a three-year, 12K mile per year lease and down payment would run and I could sense Bonnie paying rapt attention. Could she be falling for a Model S??Frunk

All the vehicles at the test drive had the premium interior and I have to admit I was a bit underwhelmed. The roof liner looked like suede and just seemed “off” to me. The backs of the front seats were plastic shells and previous passengers had scuffed them up a little, getting in and out of the cars. This was nothing that would prevent me from wanting to buy or lease a Model S, but it seemed a little inexpensive for a $100K+ car. Then again, most of the money probably goes to the amazing electric performance, touchscreen and gigantic panoramic sunroof. The trunk was also cavernous (think Chevy Impala huge) and the “frunk” (forward trunk) was decently sized as well.

We decided to speak with one of the managers about demos/leasing/buying, etc. Due to the Texas law that states manufacturers of vehicles cannot sell directly to the public and must go through dealerships, the manager could not put us in front of a computer to determine pricing. We decided we’d check that out on our own, once we got home.

We also discussed the build-out of Tesla Superchargers in Texas and the rest of the U.S. and Canada. We were shown a map of locations that was filling out nicely. The far West region of Texas didn’t have any yet and it was explained that installing Superchargers requires local permitting and that that area of Texas was “less cooperative” than other areas. I’ve had several customers come to my dealership, from that area of Texas, because they could not get a decent deal on a Chevy there. The oil & gas industry has experienced a boom, in the area. Salespeople know this and are reluctant to discount much. Perhaps the oil boom is affecting local politics, when it comes to Supercharger permitting… No. That can’t be. Oil never affects politics, especially not in Texas! 😉

What floored me was when Bonnie asked me if she and I could work out a sharing schedule. I did not really see that coming. She already has a red 2016 Volt in the order queue at my dealership! She really, really liked the Model S, but knowing me for as long as she has, she knew she could not have a Model S all to herself! Now things were starting to get serious indeed.

Of course, I mentioned this blog and video reviews of the BMW i3, the Cadillac ELR, and even the EGO Power+ lawn equipment, and asked if there was any chance of getting a Model S for a day or two to do a review on it, as well as an introductory tour of the Model S, so I could be thorough. Stay tuned… **UPDATE** Nope. Not gonna happen.

One other odd thing: Every time I mentioned vehicles I’ve reviewed or driven, the Tesla rep I was speaking with always asked about the Cadillac ELR! They never asked about any other vehicle, just the ELR. I can see how the ELR’s price point might make one consider it a competitor for the Model S, but having driven both, they aren’t competitors really. I like both vehicles, but they’re for different sorts of drivers. Like the Volt, the ELR has both gas and electric motors, eliminating range anxiety. Well, almost eliminating range anxiety. I still feel it, when my Volt is about to switch to gasoline. I hate it when that happens, not because it does so poorly, but that I’m starting to hate noise and sluggishness of gasoline-powered vehicles.The Red Bonster

How to train your EV salesperson (and how not to)

I’ve read quite a few complaints about salespeople knowing less about their plug-in vehicles than the potential customers coming in to buy them. I’ve written about the whys behind the phenomenon before.

Things are changing. A tipping point is coming although the general public is still oblivious to it. In the trenches, a small, dedicated staff of salespeople, technicians, service advisors and dealership management have been toiling away, spending their free hours reading voraciously, convincing (or trying to convince) their coworkers and potential buyers, getting a plug-in vehicle themselves (or a dealership demo), attending events to promote plug-ins and, in some extreme cases, changing their career to help others make the transition to driving an EV.

There have been struggles and successes. Just the eight plug-in vehicles, whose sales I track, have exceeded sales of 265,000 in under five years. The buyers of those vehicles, in many cases, have added another plug-in to their garage or have made the transition from their first to a second, newer generation plug-in. I believe the sales trends we’re seeing in some of these vehicles indicates the buyers are becoming more sophisticated with regards to plug-in vehicles. No longer is slapping on an outlet and adding a small battery pack sufficient for these buyers. They’re now paying closer attention to how that battery is used, in the case of hybrid vehicles, and how that affects the results they will experience. I’d like to say I was very astute, when it came to my selection of the Volt, but the fact of the matter is it was just dumb luck. I protected myself by leasing the new technology, but my selection was limited to the Volt, Leaf and Tesla Roadster (which I wanted terribly but could not afford).

So how do buyers help move the dealerships and their respective staffs forward? How does one ascertain the right dealership from which to buy a plug-in vehicle? How does a newbie make sure they’re getting the right EV to fit their needs?

It’s really pretty simple: Feed the good. Starve the bad.

When looking for a dealership, check their ads. Are they running ads on the vehicle you want? That’s one sure sign that the dealer wants to sell that specific model. Ad space is limited, so any specific dealership may have product rotations in their ads that prevent your dream car from always being advertised, but you should expect to see it advertised occasionally. Is the vehicle in the showroom or another prominent place, or is it tucked away in an out-of-the-way place?

Notice the reaction of the salesperson, when you mention the plug-in vehicle. Just today, I was working on the computer, locating a vehicle for a customer, when a potential buyer walked into the showroom. The first salesperson to greet him asked how he could be of assistance. The customer said he had questions about the Volt. Immediately, my ears perked up, several cubicles away. Then, the salesperson pointed toward me and said, “You’ll want to talk to Buzz.” Some salespeople will opt to pass a potential customer to another salesperson, effectively passing on the sale. Since we are paid by selling vehicles, why would the salesperson pass on a potential sale and send them to me? There are a few reasons:

  • Making sure the customer gets the answers they need. If the salesperson isn’t well-versed in the EV, its government incentives, the charging requirements, etc., they may choose to pass the deal to someone else that they know will do a better job. Most salespeople are not that noble, but some are. As EV clients become more astute, salespeople can’t just bluff their way through the answers the customer needs.
  • Risk/Reward isn’t sufficiently biased toward reward. This salesperson has probably had customers come in before that had questions about an EV. Questions upon questions. Then, after satisfying their curiosity, they left without purchasing a vehicle. The sales person just earned zero dollars for what could have been a three hour discussion. Not only that, but while helping the potential EV client, the salesperson is unable to help someone (or several someones) that would have purchased a traditional car or truck and had very few questions because they already have a strong understanding of gasoline-powered vehicles. Quickly sell a traditional vehicle versus discussing an EV for an extended time without closing a deal. Which would you prefer to do, in the salesperson’s shoes?
  • Perhaps this particular salesperson has done their homework and become well versed in EVs. Why would they, after investing the time to learn so much, turn away from an EV sale? Although profit margins on EVs is a lot smaller than on traditional vehicles like SUVs and pickups, prices vary widely. This is especially true of models which are about to be replaced by newer designs with greater capabilities. Dealerships who don’t have a strong EV sales staff, invariably use the only tool they have: discounting. That’s great for the customer’s pocketbook, but very bad for their understanding of their new vehicle, including if it is even the right vehicle for their needs. So, the salesperson goes through several iterations of explaining everything the customer needs to know, charging costs, government programs (state & federal), charging equipment, home wiring, high occupancy lane access, dispelling myths promulgated by a certain conservative news agency, and on and on. A few days later, the salesperson may call the customer to see if they’re interested in taking the plunge, only to be told, “Thanks for the information, but we found a deal we couldn’t pass up at another dealer.” How many times would you go through this cycle, if it meant getting paid nothing every time it happens? How much more studying would you do to keep abreast of developments in the market, changing government programs, etc.? As a customer, you may have gotten a great deal at the 2nd dealership, but you’ve left the next customer with a less-than-motivated EV salesperson.

Here are some ways to not poop the pool, when you buy:

  1. Determine what kind of buyer you are.
    1. Are you going to select vehicle/dealership/salesperson based solely on price? If so, let the salesperson know this from the very beginning and don’t be shocked or angry if they tell you they aren’t competitive with dealerships that are dumping the vehicles you want, but don’t have the sales or service staff to take care of you. They may turn and walk away. Don’t take this as an insult, as it is their best effort to be honest and make a living. Instead, try to get as many answers as you can, on your own. There are lots of great resources out there, including: friends and neighbors who currently drive EVs, Green Car Reports, The Electric Generation, EV owners groups on Facebook, Inside EVs, Plug In America, Plug In Cars, Green Tech Media, blogs (like the one you’re reading now), radio and TV shows, the manufacturers’ websites and government websites. In this way, you’ll be more prepared to select your first plug-in vehicle without keeping a helpful, well-meaning salesperson from wasting valuable sales opportunities, when they may have no chance to win your business.
    2. If you want or need a lot of information and, rather than researching on your own, want to be guided, be prepared to pay more for the vehicle. Have you ever hired a fishing guide, hiking guide, realtor, tutor, etc without paying them? This is no different. The salesperson has very specialized knowledge, that you have determined you need. To make sure you have a salesperson that will be of value to you, ask if the dealership has an EV specialist and if so, ask to be taken to them. Ask them if they drive a plug-in vehicle. If so, ask how long they’ve been driving one. If not, perhaps they won’t have the answers you need. Ask about their experiences, both good and bad. Get all your questions answered to your satisfaction. Then negotiate a fair price that also fairly compensates your EV guide.
  2. Ask if any of the service advisors or technicians personally own or lease the vehicle in which you’re interested. If so, you know you’ve found great after-purchase support. Ask to meet the service advisor and make this specific advisor your point of contact for service needs.
  3. If you are served well by a knowledgable EV salesperson, make sure the dealership sales management knows you found them to be helpful. Yes, commissions are important, but its also important that management know the lengths the salesperson has gone to, to help clients making the switch to this new paradigm. As the EV market grows, other salespeople will hop on the bandwagon. In the early development of the EV market, dealership management needs to know who their go-to people are for EVs. Sometimes, potential buyers are referred to the dealership management who then decides which salesperson gets to work the deal. Those referred customers will be better served if management knows of the salesperson’s expertise.
  4. If your interest was piqued by a friend or neighbor who acquired an EV, ask them to recommend a dealer and/or salesperson. Those that have had a great sales experience will be happy to promote the salesperson that put forth the effort. Since that salesperson also made a sale (to your friend) they are probably still motivated to help others, on their electric vehicle journey.
  5. If you’ve gotten the answers you need, but aren’t quite ready to buy, remember your salesperson’s name and ask for them if or when you return. Another salesperson will be more than willing to help you, when you’re poised to buy. It’s all reward and minimal effort, at that point. Reward the one who earned your business.

July 2015 Sales Numbers

In July 2015, the plug-in market was on a bit of a rebound, mostly up and one by quite a bit, from the previous month:

  • Chevy Volt: UP 7% (1,313 vs. 1,225)
  • Nissan Leaf: DOWN 43% (1,174 vs. 2,074)
  • Plug-in Toyota Prius: UP 26% (584 vs. 464)
  • Cadillac ELR: UP 6% (66 vs. 62)
  • BMW i3: UP 70% (935 vs. 551)
  • BMW i8: UP 58% (217 vs. 137)
  • Ford Fusion Energi: UP 17% (852 vs. 727)
  • Ford C-Max Energi: UP 4% (693 vs. 667)

The price of gasoline remained steady through the first half of the month and then began a nose dive, ending the month around $2.65. Because it had remained steady for the first half, the average (shown on the top chart) just shows a mild decline, averaging $2.73 for the month. Although the Chevy Volt’s sales dropped in June, compared to a recent high in May, sales crept back up a bit, making it the leader for the month (at least of the vehicles I track). My view from inside the dealership is that dealers, in low-demand areas especially, are dropping prices precipitously, to move the current model out, before the new one starts production later this month. The Nissan Leaf took a major hit, dropping a whopping 43% and falling behind the Volt, in monthly sales volume, for the first time, since October 2013! As you can see, in the lower chart, the Leaf (blue curve) has been steadily gaining on the Volt (green curve), since recovering from the early heat-related battery issues which kept me from getting one as my first plug-in vehicle. Perhaps, with all the rumors about the next-gen Leaf, buyers are starting to have that “new iPhone wait-and-see” attitude…

July’s sales figures show the Volt gaining a little ground, for all-time sales since inception. The Leaf’s lead over the Volt has been trimmed to 3,291 units, down from a high of 3,430 units. The Plug-in Prius after a huge drop last month rebounded to 584 units or an increase of 26% over June’s total. However, don’t get too excited. It hasn’t topped 1,000 units in a month for a year now. The Cadillac, rebounded as well, with an increase of 6%, but in its 20th month of availability, its sales numbers have never been above 200 in a single month. The BMW i3 had a significant increase after a big drop reported the previous month: it’s up 70%! The BMW i8 also had a big increase of 58%. Ford’s numbers on the Fusion Energi and the C-Max Energi increased as well. The Fusion by 17% and the C-Max by 4%.July 2015 Sales Numbers

Sales, compared to the same month a year ago, are an inverse of what we saw, when comparing to one month ago. In this case, only one vehicle showed an increase! Of course, one year ago, gasoline prices were just coming off a high point, and now, they’re climbing up from a low point reached in January.

  • Chevy Volt: DOWN 35% (1,313 vs. 2,020)
  • Nissan Leaf: DOWN 39% (1,174 vs. 3,019)
  • Plug-in Toyota Prius: DOWN 43% (584 vs. 1,371) “Ask not for whom the bell tolls…”
  • Cadillac ELR: DOWN 65% (66 vs. 188)
  • BMW i3: UP 158% (935 vs. 363)
  • BMW i8: (did not exist a year ago, but next month we’ll have a number to compare against)
  • Ford Fusion Energi: DOWN 31% (852 vs. 1,226)
  • Ford C-Max Energi: DOWN 17% (693 vs. 831)

The results.

Big BlueThe day has finally arrived. The leasing company is coming by to examine my first Volt, in preparation for its return to them. I am surprised at the nagging background feeling of sadness that I have. This car changed my life! Seriously. I am now working at a Chevy dealership because of this car. We downsized our home and moved to a relatively undeveloped area, because of this car. I have had public speaking engagements, been interviewed on radio, TV and in newspapers, because of this car. I’ve become active with local government and civic groups, because of this car. But I thought that my excitement over getting a newly redesigned Volt would make me immune to this car’s charms, but like my first girlfriend, I think this one will live on in my mind for a very long time. My blue Volt’s final stats:Final StatsI ended up being 83% electric, over the entire time I’ve had my Volt. Since my original estimate was 75%, I’m pleased with this. That means I used about 208 gallons of gasoline during the last three years/45,027 miles. In my previous car, (a Lexus ES300 that got 22MPG, which is the average MPG for new cars, in the U.S., today) I would have used 2,047 gallons! The Volt saved me from buying 1,839 gallons which, at the average price for gas over the last three years of $3.00 per gallon, represents a cost of $624.40 (or a savings of $5,516.00!!!). But what about the price of electricity? Yes, that must be taken into account. At 8.3¢ per kWh, 12.8 kWh for a full charge and about 40 miles per charge, that’s an additional cost of $991.38. So my total cost to go 45,027 miles was $1,615.78. That 2,047 gallons I would have bought in my previous vehicle would have cost $6,141. I saved $4,525.22 in fuel cost. Since I started working at the dealership, almost two years ago, I have been allowed to charge for free. This shifted a large portion of that $991.38 in electricity cost to my employer. Since not everyone can charge at work, we’ll pretend I paid for all electricity and go with the $4,525.22 savings.

What about maintenance savings? My previous car would have had at least nine oil changes over a three year period. My Volt needed only one oil change. At 35K miles, although the remaining oil life display was 60%, I freaked out and had an oil change. According to the remaining oil life display (97% remaining), I could have easily gone the full three years without an oil change. That’s about $360 in maintenance cost, raising the amount saved to $4,885.22.

What’s priceless to me is that, for 37,326 miles, I drove a zero emissions vehicle.

Fare well, Serenity. May you be as great a car for the next lucky owner as you were for me. I’ll never forget you.

**UPDATE**

A person who examines returned lease vehicles for U.S. Bank just examined my Volt. I was wondering how this would go. He advised me to remove the stickers from my hatchback window, which I did (to save the $40 removal fee). He also said everything else looked like normal wear and tear, so there are no charges, other than the $390 inspection fee originally set up, when I leased the Volt. Even the tires were in great shape! This was the last concern I had about leasing, and at least with U.S. Bank, it was relatively painless.

Our next Volt lease return will be in late December (just in time for the 2016’s arrival). That lease was with Ally Bank. I’ll let you know how that return goes when it’s done.

June 2015 Sales Numbers

Gas prices rise. EV sales drop. Wait? What?!?!?

In June 2015, the plug-in market gave up a portion of last month’s gains. So far, every plug-in except the BMW i8 showed a drop in sales, albeit not so much as to return to April’s numbers. One exception to that, was the BMW i8, which had a loss of one vehicle, compared to April (137 vs. 138). Here’s how it all shook out:

  • Chevy Volt: DOWN 24% (1,225 vs. 1,618)
  • Nissan Leaf: DOWN 1% (2,074 vs. 2,104)
  • Plug-in Toyota Prius: DOWN 36% (464 vs. 727)
  • Cadillac ELR: DOWN 47% (62 vs. 116)
  • BMW i3: DOWN 33% (551 vs. 818)
  • BMW i8: UP 17% (137 vs. 117)
  • Ford Fusion Energi: DOWN 26% (727 vs. 986)
  • Ford C-Max Energi: DOWN 7% (715 vs. 553)

The price of gasoline continued to rise for another month, from an average of $2.69 in May to $2.78 in June (another 8% increase). Although the Chevy Volt’s sales dropped in June, from the previous month, sales remained in the 1,000+ volume level. The Nissan Leaf once again was top dog, remaining above 2,000 units for the second month in a row. June sales volume was only 1% lower than in May. June’s sales figures pushed the Leaf even further in front of the Volt, for all-time sales since inception. The Leaf now leads the Volt by 3,430 units, or 4%. The Plug-in Prius saw a huge drop of 36%, down to a monthly total of 464. The Cadillac, suffered the largest percentage drop, but in its 19th month of availability, its sales numbers have never been above 200 in a single month. The BMW i3 had a significant decrease from the previous month: 33%! Ford’s numbers on the Fusion Energi and the C-Max Energi were both down. In the lower graph (adoption rate), I believe we’re seeing the public’s enlightenment. Of the five vehicles with adoption rates below the Nissan Leaf (at a very bad time for Leaf adoption): The C-Max Energi, Fusion Energi, the ELR, the plug-in Prius and the i8, I believe we’ll never see long-term success of any of these, except for the i8. As a statement of what can be done with plug-in electric vehicles, the i8 serves its purpose. It shows BMW knows how to make a uncompromising plug-in vehicle. The others, in my opinion, are doomed by insufficient battery pack size and the inability of the vehicle to run purely electrically, in a manner like the Volt.June 2015 Sales Numbers

Sales, compared to the same month a year ago, looked like this:

  • Chevy Volt: DOWN 31% (1,225 vs. 1,777) *the 2016 Volt cannot get here soon enough for me!
  • Nissan Leaf: DOWN 12% (2,074 vs. 2,347)
  • Plug-in Toyota Prius: DOWN 70% (464 vs. 1,571)
  • Cadillac ELR: DOWN 36% (62 vs. 97)
  • BMW i3: UP 54% (551 vs. 358)
  • BMW i8: (did not exist a year ago)
  • Ford Fusion Energi: DOWN 63% (727 vs. 1,939)
  • Ford C-Max Energi: DOWN 32% (667 vs. 988)

The end is near **UPDATED!!!**

The End Is NearI’ve mentioned the coming end of the Texas’ Light-Duty Motor Vehicle Purchase or Lease Incentive (LDPLI) Program before. With only one week left in the program, I was interviewed by Texas Public Radio in order to inform the public about the program’s demise. The interview may be heard here.

**UPDATE**

Texas has extended the rebate program until July 8th!!!Extension!

The evidence

Earlier today, it was quite an exciting and disappointing day. If you read the post, you know the story. Now, the evidence.

The person claiming to be selling the Tesla gave the name “Major Audreanna Batts.” Her address was given as 13901 Walney Lane, Chantilly, VA 20151, which is a real address (I checked Google Maps). Using Street View, I could tell that the street was paved like the one in the car photos, but I could not locate the house in the photo. I also Googled the seller’s name and got NO results, which seemed odd to me.

As mentioned in the email dialog yesterday, the seller was handing me off to eBay Motors to complete the transaction. I started getting eBay branded emails with instructions.1st email

One odd thing I noticed about the email was the address: ebay.motors@protection-customer.com. The domain appeared to be incorrect. Shouldn’t it end in @ebay.com or @ebaymotors.com?2nd email

Also, the attached invoice was unlike any invoice I’d ever seen, but I’ve only seen General Motors invoices. (I did find the fine print at the end somewhat convincing.)Invoice

I replied to one of the emails asking about tax, title & license fees. They responded with:ebay03

Again, it seemed like a normal Customer Service interaction, except for the last question. That seemed sort of pushy and made me uneasy. Then I received the wiring instructions for the money. This is when things really started looking wrong. Who the hell am I wiring money to???ebay04Right about then Steve, a Facebook friend, commented on several things he’d noticed on the provided “eBay” materials that conflicted with information on the eBay site. Specifically, he mentioned if it isn’t listed on eBay, it’s not ON eBay. You cannot just hire eBay to ship the vehicle and handle the cash transfer. Thanks, Steve!Steve's comments

Based on Steve’s comments on Facebook and the suspicions that were building up inside me, I went to eBay Motor’s website and found a contact phone number and called them. They confirmed they have no knowledge of the vehicle and they NEVER use wire transfers.

Now, it would seem somebody can take the wiring instructions and start to trace back to the scammers…

I ended up emailing the seller one last time to say that eBay Motors had told me they had no such vehicle in their system. As of yet, there’s been no response, but I’m not really expecting there to be one.

Live, learn and practice due diligence!

I have to admit, I thought about just deleting the earlier post and saving face, but I thought it better to spread the word. Now, if someone Googles the name or VIN (5YJSA1AC4DFP10644), they’ll find this and avoid getting ripped off. The VIN, as I stated earlier, is a real Tesla Model S. Just because you’re looking at a car with that VIN doesn’t mean it’s the scam.